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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:09:00 -
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if this is true and it's the direction CCP wants to take EvE... I wont renew my subs. It's been a nice few years, with an incredible experience, but I do not wish to be around when one of the greater games of all time becomes a monster. _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Cyber Duck
what have you done to our game ccp? OUR GAME! WE PAY YOUR ****ING WAGES!!!
Well basically it's still their game, but the part of them being nowhere without our money is indeed very true. We paid for everything they have... but ignoring their playerbase is a growing trend with CCP it seems. Man, feels like I'm full of rage right now
I started playing this game and kept playing it because it was different, not because it was a clone of everything else!!!
As has been said before, sad is the day when concidering a WoW account isn't even half bad _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.22 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco
Originally by: Lord Cath
Originally by: Cyber Duck
what have you done to our game ccp? OUR GAME! WE PAY YOUR ****ING WAGES!!!
Well basically it's still their game, but the part of them being nowhere without our money is indeed very true. We paid for everything they have... but ignoring their playerbase is a growing trend with CCP it seems. Man, feels like I'm full of rage right now
I started playing this game and kept playing it because it was different, not because it was a clone of everything else!!!
As has been said before, sad is the day when concidering a WoW account isn't even half bad
Your sig, hurts my feelings and crashes my hopes ... Oh WOE IS ME!!! WHY CCP??? WHY????????
wow, I had show sigs turned off for quite some time didn't even know I still had that one in there. Pretty ironic in these times now that I come to think of it :s _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
2) Bigotry. EvE players have a long-standing feeling of superiority over WoW players. Internet spaceships pilots thinking they're cooler and smarter than internet mages. Whatever. I dont give a crap whether you're into spaceships, wizards, vampires, or fantasy football, you still have a nerdy hobby. Just take ownership of it and stop inflating your ego by tearing down those with a different nerd streak than yourself.
CCP isn't banning people that are offering simple, constructive, respectful criticism. They are banning ****heads who spam them from every angle with emotion filled hateful rants that have little use or bearing on reality, or who condone and spread fake CCP material like the stuff that sparked this thread.
first of all if it's fake, I'm pretty sure CCP will tell us. By now we haven't heard a word from them and two csm members have mentioned having seen that "thing" before...
second. I started playing this game, because there was nothing like it. Nothing. Nothing at all... Ive never participated in the expected ***gotry after every new patch with people going ape**** over nothing and then like it anyway after a week. I can understand 0.0 people being ****ed off with the lag tho (among other things, but anyway...). But this, this would change EvE in such a way, that it becomes something realy ugly, something, quite like... well... all the rest really. Rich nerds having an advantage over everyone else. I don't feel like being part of something like that. It offers me no immersion. There is no immersion to be found when you realise that a lot of people have an advantage over you not because theyre better, but because they have acces to rich parents visa's...
I like this game, and I'd rather have a fond memory of it by leaving it when it's still good than a bitter one. _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais On re reading this document I think it may well be a fake, a carefully edited one. The same style and syntax appears throughout - despite having differing authors for example -
"In short, itÆs the same in Incarna as elsewhere:..."
"That is actually not a bad definition for us:..."
"One such convention is of special importance to us:..."
Now you might expect a similar stylistic approach for any document created for an internal business audience but it just feels 'off' somehow.
C.
It'd be awesome if you're right... somehow I doubt it _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen
Thank you for actually using your brain and some critical thinking skills when examining this hilarious document. I salute you o7
stop being an arrogant twit. Most of us here are just really concerned people with a lot of love for this game... _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mag'nal I loved how they used the Korean game market as their basis on whether or not MT and/or F2P-P2W games work.
Cause I'm pretty sure, at least here in the US, Korean games don't last but for a handful of months.
think that goes for anywhere outside of Korea _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tjarf
Originally by: Jade Constantine Here is the problem Verone. Sure when you have been playing Eve as long as we have you learn to take the rough with the smooth but you do so with the general feeling that CCP developers understand and ôgetö what makes Eve great û and thatÆs the problem now. This internal newsletter (if real) shows that one of the leading developers does not ôget eveö does not care about eve, and simply sees eve as a cash cow to be milked ferociously to fund other projects. This is about keeping the golden goose of eve subscriptions (on a drip feed if necessary) while chasing and grubbing every little loose cent he can from the player base.
Let me give you a couple of examples of how this can and does (and has already) impacted our enjoyment of this game:
1. The Captains Quarters û itÆs not gameplay its a display cabinet for vanity items. And the price of this display cabinet for you and I is that multi-client performance in stations is now terrible û if you have a bad graphic card itÆs a jerk fest û if you have a decent graphics card itÆs heat-fest. I can run 3-4 clients with CQÆs turned on û I can run it smoothly û but do I want to? Hell no because my Gtx 580 sounds like its melting my motherboard now! So I need to turn off the CQÆs on multiple accounts and as a result have more limited functionality on those accounts and an ugly wallpaper. No more station environment, no more clicking on my ship to open cargo hold, no more dragging ship to the hanger to board it. The delivery of the CQ vanity item display case has impacted my gameplay.
CCP could have made it optional and given us the option of keeping the old hanger view and added a ôdisembark shipö option to the UI but ôoh noö to do that would have meant we werenÆt being forced to look the vanity display case that marketing insisted must be front and centre if weÆre to even think about buying these ridiculously overpriced items from the Noble store.
2. If you read the newsletter youÆll see reference to saved fitting slots û and I donÆt know about you Verone but in JF weÆve run out of saved corp ship fittings. We want CCP to up the limit but is that really going to happen while the ôbiz-devsö talk honeyed words about how to squeeze extra income from players for such ôminor upgrades.ö?
3. Who develops these vanity items? Yes thats right its Eve artists and developers whose salary we pay with our subscriptions. Given the choice wouldnÆt you rather than engine trials and flashy cyno effect rather than a bunch of overpriced tat in the Aur store? Because that is precisely the compromise being made here -> CCP using our subs money to pay for vanity item production they want to sell back to us for greedy prices and it is something you SHOULD get mad about.
HereÆs the thing. The time to fight for the game we love is not in six months time when these concepts have bedded down and CCP is feeling bold enough to start selling Noble Faction ammo and +9 implants. The time to fight is now. Because this newsletter embodies everything that many of us feared but didnÆt want to believe CCP were becoming capable of. It is a massive betrayal of the compact we shared as players and developers of this game and indicates that CCP is preparing to leap down a very dark and deep path of self-immolation in the months to come.
I donÆt want to see Eve Online die Verone. That sounds dramatic I know, but gameworlds die when the dreams and visions are extinguished and that can happen through a succession of bad ideas foisted on a community by people who really donÆt have much of a clue in business.
Signed
nicely worded... +1 _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Belid Hagen This is what happens when you put members of goonswarm in charge of leading CCP's direction.
keep the CAOD rubbish where it belongs, mate... _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Velicitia
Originally by: Illwill Bill That Trinity trailer sure brought back memories.
for anyone too young to have been there when Trinity came out.
WATCH THIS
it's really hard to believe that this is the same CCP that is now doing all this horrible crap... _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hyperforce99 I'm honestly still wondering why there has been no proper response from CCP about this. They must be either scrambling to meet up and decide which direction to go from here. Or they are simply ignoring it (which would be the worst thing they could do).
I guess i'll see in the morning.
dont get your hopes up tbh _________________________________________________
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Lord Cath
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Deamos Just a reminder I saw posted on Twitter.
I guess CCP changed their tune?
Old Eve-O Forum Post
I remember that indeed...
it's odd how it went from an awesome expansion like apocrypha to the "your game will not be fixed in over 18 months" to "GIVE MA ALL YOUR CASH NAO" in such a short amount of time _________________________________________________
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